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Require your assistance please.

Oct 8 2006, 2:07 PM EDT by Anonymous

Thread started: Sep 17 2006, 11:19 AM EDT Watch

Hello:
I have just recently found your page on the Koolie and wonder if you might read my comments left there and that there might be a chance that you could render me some assistance in adjusting a few items of information which since their formulation have proven incorrect, such as the influence of Captain Cook, upon looking at the manifest for all his voyages to Australia there is no information to imply that Collie bloodlines were on any of those ships. The only reference is to puppies, adult dogs and their numbers. but if we look at our early Australian paintings from Captain Cooks era we see mostly terriers and small breeds used for hunting small game, like rats and rabbits. It was not until the true establishment of a sheep industry that we saw the arrival of herding type breeds, the Collie included, the sheep which came with the first fleet were all but a handful eaten in the first year according to Cooks own diary entries.
The area referred to colonized by German immigrants was South Australia along the wheatbelt country, Lutheran Germans came to Australia in the early part of the 1800s to escape persecution for following their beliefs in Germany, many were of a rural background.
As indicated by our early painters who recorded the commencement of our country’s History, it is not presumed that those first animal arrivals were the ancestors of Australian working breeds.

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RE: Require your assistance please.
By: Anonymous, Oct 8 2006, 2:07 PM EDT

"Their foundation parents are the German Tiger and Collie working bloodlines from Scotland, and other rural parts of Europe.
They didn’t die out because they were too heavy, large or vociferous, they thrived and are seen as the oldest working breed in Australia and possibly a foundation breed for the Kelpie, Cattle dog and Aussie Shepherd breeds as DNA will eventual uncover.
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Tjukurpa --- "IF" the Coolie's foundation parents were the German Tiger ---- which there is no proof to that --- and the Collie from Scotland; then the Coolie is NOT an Australian bred dog.

The Coolie is not the foundation for the Kelpie; that has been proven by Mary and Stephen Bilson. The Coolie is not the foundation for the ACD; that has been proven by Noreen Clark. The Coolie is not the foundation for the Australian Shepherd; that has been proven by the fact that -- as you say, all Coolies have been cleared by the Ivermectin Sensitivity Test; C.A. Sharp, Pres. Australian Shepherd Health & Genetics Institute, Inc., All Aussies All Genes All the Time, http://www.ashgi. org , states that "one out of three Aussies carries this mutation and lethal drug reactions are a possibility for those dogs". So, IF the Coolie IS the FOUNDATION for the Australian Shepherd, where did the mutated gene come from? The fact is, the mutated gene originated from one male and one female Collie. NOT every dog, who's ancestors were the Collie carry the bloodlines of those two individual dogs.

All these are YOUR theories, which can not be proven. You keep saying, "DNA will uncover secrets" --- how can a marker be found for the "Coolie", when your foundation dogs, admitted by yourself, are from the pound/rescue and off the streets, which you have no idea what breed(s) they are from? You openly admitted that MoJo (another foundation dog from your kennel) is German Shepherd Cross.

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