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| conexxions3 | "Designer" Dogs? (page: 1 2 3) | 43 | Mar 30 2009, 2:06 PM EDT by meyati | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 24 2007, 9:18 AM EDT
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What most fail to understand is that almost ALL dogs breeds ARE DESIGNER Dogs! VERY few dog breeds are "Ancient" breeds. My little Italian Greyhound - is an Ancient Breed. My Beagle, is an Ancient breed (both over 2000 years).
About 60-80% (my estimate) of dog breeds have had HUMAN intervention to create them! Why is it NOW that people are saying its wrong? Geez, we wouldnt have some wonderful, wonderful breeds of dogs if that had been said 50 years ago. Its not like there was some magic moment in time that it suddenly became WRONG to mix breeds of dogs. Sorry, i just get a bit irritated at silly things.
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| babygirlloverip | As for Designer Dogs | 11 | Mar 28 2009, 8:46 PM EDT by meyati | ||||
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Thread started: Nov 5 2007, 10:11 AM EST
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I for one agree. Every person has their own opinion, I have owned dogs all my life, but never have I had a companion like the chipoo's (wapoo) or chihuahua's I have now. As for those who call them mutts, look at all the people (mutts as you call them) that are in the world....My babies are precious to me and I would never spade or neuter them because some people believe they are mutts....I can't even put into words what I think about some of these posts....Unbelieveable....To each their own
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| maximusandz | definition of breeding from wikipedia | 0 | Mar 28 2009, 11:43 AM EDT by maximusandz | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 28 2009, 11:43 AM EDT
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"The breeder or breeders who initially establish a breed, do so by selecting individual animals from within the groups gene pool that they see as having the necessary qualities needed to enhance the breed model they are aiming for. These animals are referred to as “breed foundation”, or “breed origination”. Further, the breeder mates the most desirable from his point of view representatives, aiming to pass such characteristics to their progeny. This process is known as selective breeding. A written description of desirable and undesirable breed representatives is referred to as a breed standard..."
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| peekapoocheckers | Designer Dogs | 2 | Mar 23 2009, 8:12 PM EDT by peekapoocheckers | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 18 2009, 2:29 PM EDT
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Ok - this is probably more of a ramble - but I welcome comments. Checkers is a peek-a-poo [pekingnese & poodle mix] An ideal little dog and we adore him. He brings many qualities including NO SHEDDING - My only problem with designer dogs has nothing to do with the dog but the so called "breeder" - There are breeders charging $1000 plus for these guys - I've seen them as high as $3000. Now, if a person wants to pay that for a dog so be it, I'm not here to judge but IMHO something needs to be done about "breeders" period - Designer or Pure Bred.
You can go online to find a "breeder" but you have absolutely no real idea - unless you visit - if this person is good to their dog or not. There are pure bred breed dogs found in shelters and rescue becaue they just can't breed anymore and the breeder doesn't want the dog. For those who give health guarantees they offer "a new pup" not a return on their money. You've bonded with your dog, your dog gets sick with a congenital defect and the breeder wants to euthanize and replace. What is wrong with that picture? You are are responsible pet owner, you have spayed or neutered the pet, the pet is sick and the breeder wants to put it down! Telling someone the dog is AKC registerd is a joke. The AKC does nothing to confirm that the breeder is ethical - Telling someone a mixed breed designer dog is "registered" is outrageous. I've always had AKC "registered" dogs before Checkers. Every one of them has been spayed or neutered - Checkers is my little mutt - I couldn't give a flip about "papers" There is nothing wrong with a designer dog - the problem is with the person trying to make a killing on breeding them!
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| Anonymous | Mutts | 2 | Aug 25 2008, 4:40 PM EDT by Chrisy135 | ||||
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Thread started: Oct 15 2007, 6:18 PM EDT
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I have two mutts a chihuahua/Dachshund mix and a Beagle/Brittany mix. I adopted them both from the pound cost me like 40$ each. I love them and would never spend more on a dog, pedigree or not. My mutts are priceless. And I will continue to adopt these mutts for my whole life.
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| Anonymous | Want a designer dog? Check the pound | 1 | Aug 19 2007, 1:58 PM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Mar 28 2007, 7:22 AM EDT
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Source: Thorton, Kim Campbell. "Want a designer dog? Check the pound." MSNBC Online. MSNBC contributor
Updated: 3:49 a.m. PT March 20, 2007. Accessed: 28Mar07. Home » Health » Pet Health » Creature Comforts http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17616672/ "... Puggles, maltipoos are pricey — and essentially mixed-breed mutts... ... People who seek out the dog du jour — which these days is a crossbreed such as a maltipoo (Maltese/poodle) or goldendoodle (golden retriever/poodle) — like the idea of having a dog that not very many people have. And don't mind paying $1,000 to $2,500 or more for one... Best of each breed? ...Pet lovers are also attracted by claims that hybrids are hypoallergenic or have fewer health problems or will carry the best traits of each breed...." Please see the article for much more. ~ Shelter Supporter
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| Anonymous | What guarantees? | 0 | Aug 11 2007, 7:43 AM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Aug 11 2007, 7:43 AM EDT
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Do these breeders test thier breeding stock for genetic defects/health issues known to the individual breeds they're crossing? If the answer is "no" then how can they guarantee the offspring will not have these faults? They can't.
And most do not test as it costs money and that cuts thier bottom line (profit). |
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| Anonymous | Are Designer Dog Trends bad for dogs? | 0 | Jun 14 2007, 1:46 PM EDT by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Jun 14 2007, 1:46 PM EDT
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I say no, through history people have bread different dogs breeds together to acquire characteristics that they desire. Now all of a sudden this is wrong? Its these radical Dog Rescue organizations that have the problem, they will stop at nothing to stop people from mixing different breeds. Ive personally read posts on sites like Petfinder.com (run by "Animal Planet") where Dog Rescue Groups often threaten or wish harm to what they call BYB (Back Yard Breeders) of these hybrid or Designer Breeds, Many also despise breeding of pure bread dogs. In there opinion these BYB don't deserve to even live, they look upon them as criminals, this kind of thinking is just outrageous. There is nothing illegal about breeding "Designer Dogs" although Dog Rescue groups such as Good Dog Rescue based in Arlington Virginia say that these hybrids will inherit all the bad characteristics of both breeds which is not the case, mix breeds are almost always healthier and have fewer genetic defects due to a larger genetic pool than pure breeds.
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| scottishterrier | Shelter Dogs and Rescues | 2 | Mar 21 2007, 5:46 AM EDT by doplgangr | ||||
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Thread started: Jan 23 2007, 4:16 AM EST
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Dear DoggyGal,
Thank you so much for adding this page! I love mixes but I have many reservations about intentionally breeding two breeds. My first solo dog was a CockaPoo Rescue about 30 years ago. Wayyyy back before "designer" breeds. She was probably one of the sweetest dogs ever was. Want a nice mix? Go to shelters. There are so many deserving dogs who need homes! "Designer Dog Controversy We here at wikiFido have heard the word. As a community of dog lovers, we love all dogs... big and small, short or tall--gotta love those dogs! However, the FidoGate controversy behind "designer dogs" rages on and we want to hear your well-reasoned thoughts on the topic. Read more about the controversy and post your thoughts here. The Controversy Behind Designer Dogs" http://www.wikifido.com/page/Designer%20Dog%20Controversy
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| scottishterrier | A Must Read (extensive) | 0 | Feb 5 2007, 3:23 AM EST by scottishterrier | ||||
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Thread started: Feb 5 2007, 3:23 AM EST
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New York Times: The Modern Kennel Conundrum
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/04/magazine/04dogs.t.html |
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| moosescotty | Bix the Mix Pages | 0 | Jan 31 2007, 9:02 AM EST by moosescotty | ||||
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Thread started: Jan 31 2007, 9:02 AM EST
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Well drawn pages full of antedotal notes, pictures, references and research.
It is quite obvious Bix owns his MaMa -- tahoma -- hook, line, and sinker. The full path > Dog Breeds > Mixed Breeds > Designer Dogs > Puggle > My Puggle > Bix Bix the Mix http://www.wikifido.com/page/Bix Bix Clicks Bix Picks Bix's Book List |
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| takoma | My thoughts .... | 1 | Jan 27 2007, 5:50 AM EST by scottishterrier | ||||
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Thread started: Oct 15 2006, 9:56 AM EDT
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... are over on the Bix page. Along with some links. Trained as a population geneticist, I 'm definitely with the hybrids, i.e. mutts, intentional or accidental. Human, canine, or whatever. The term "designer" is unfortunate.
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| whickums | GREAT ADD | 2 | Jan 23 2007, 4:18 AM EST by scottishterrier | ||||
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Thread started: Sep 30 2006, 3:43 AM EDT
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Thank you so much for the quick attention and response to comments! This is a great addition to the information about designer breeds.
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| Anonymous | Doggy owner | 0 | Nov 17 2006, 4:33 PM EST by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Nov 17 2006, 4:33 PM EST
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All so called pedigree dogs are crosses of many types and then a true to type is bred on from the crosses so to have so called designer dogs is no different to what has been allways going on, I have allways had pedigree dogs up until my latest and she was a mistake mating and is a cross Border collie/Fox terrier, if I could get annother cross like her I would go for it.So keep up the designer dogs
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