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Anonymous |
European Website
Feb 7 2008, 8:41 AM EST I found this website http://indiandog.eigenstart.nl on Native American Indian Dogs in Europe. These dogs have more of a wolf look. Are they related to the ones over here? Where can I find a breeder in the US of the bigger natural wolf type indian dogs? Do you find this valuable? |
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Anonymous |
RE: European Website
Feb 9 2008, 9:24 PM EST Don't be scammed by these dogs, they are nothing but cross bred dogs. If you want a dog that looks like that --- just breed a Husky to a Kelpie and there ya go!!!!!!!!!! Do you find this valuable? |
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Bozola Bozola |
RE: European Website
Feb 16 2008, 2:10 PM EST Greetings! I am the administrator for the American Indian Dogs forum, http://www.iidoba.org/forums. We have a active and dynamic group of owners who love answering questions, showing off photo, and all of the usual doggie bragging. To answer your question, SongDogs in Europe, is not allowed to use the appellation "American Indian Dogs", as they were ousted from the IIDOBA (International Indian Dogs Owners and Breeders Association). It's hard to tell who http://indiandog.eigenstart.nl actually is, but there are many reference to indiandog.nl who is not allowed to use the name. Kim LaFlamme's American Indian Dogs, http://indiandogs.com, are true dogs; they are not Coyote or Wolf mixes. They are not Kelpies, either, despite the vicious libel (in every legal sense, which is prosecutable) propagated by a small cadre of anonymous cowards with an agenda. AIDs are not AKC, and it is freely admitted to be the case. I like the breed because they are wonderful all-around dogs. Good with kids, smart, lively, and wonderful companions. In his own words, which I fully agree with, Kim calls his dogs "the ultimate mutt". Inbreeding an animal to product a conversation piece is a cruel practice, IMHO. Ruining living creatures so someone can accessorize their wardrobe is just evil. There is a similarly named breed the North American Indian Dog which is reputed to be wolf hybrids. Wolf hybrid do not make good pets. I would strongly advise you to avoid considering one. Please refer to: http://www.thepettribune.com/1998/040598/32.html Do you find this valuable? |
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Anonymous |
RE: European Website
Feb 17 2008, 12:18 AM EST So who are you? I see you didn't sign your name. Kim LaFlamme did in fact purchase Kelpies from Lisa Eldrige and use them in his breeding program. She has proof of this. Anyone can email her and ask her. www.herdeverything.com Do you find this valuable? |
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Anonymous |
RE: European Website
Feb 17 2008, 12:47 PM EST I am who I say I am, complete with all the contact information could ever want. Not have I provided and email to this forum, I have stated that I am the administrator of another. You, however, are an anonymous coward who is perpetrating lies. Do you find this valuable? |
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Anonymous |
RE: European Website
Feb 19 2008, 10:22 AM EST Nope, contact Lisa Eldridge. Kim LaFlamme's the one that refused the DNA tests, which tells everyone that he has something to hide. Think what you want, say what you want, but the proof is there and the public isn't that stupid. Do you find this valuable? |
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Anonymous |
RE: European Website
Feb 19 2008, 10:11 PM EST I direct your attention to http://www.iidoba.org/heritage.pdf Do you find this valuable? |
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Anonymous |
RE: European Website
Feb 20 2008, 12:32 AM EST Gosh I looked but never found who the Administration was. Kim is a scam artist. Speak to REAL Native American's on the Reservation's, they laugh at him. I stick by what I say, he refused DNA because he knows where those dogs came from and some came from Kelpies and Kelpie/Border Collie cross that were owned by Lisa Eldridge. And his "Rogue" dog -- IS A KELPIE because I know the person that who's kennel name was "Rogue" and those Kelpies were his and Kim bought some to add to his CREATION! Say what you want -- the jig is up. Do you find this valuable? |
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Anonymous |
RE: European Website
Feb 20 2008, 12:41 AM EST Here's an idea. Since now there is a Breed Specificity test that is offered through MMI Genomics, I'm sure that Kim would allow someone (other than him or anyone related to him or his scam) to take DNA samples of his dogs or of any "alleged" American Indian Dog to be tested. Any takers? Do you find this valuable? |
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Bozola Bozola |
RE: European Website
Feb 20 2008, 8:44 AM EST You are certainly a persistent liar, I'll give you that. http://www.iidoba.org/DNA.pdf Do you find this valuable? |
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Anonymous |
RE: European Website
Feb 21 2008, 9:51 AM EST DNA will reveal everything. Do you find this valuable? |
