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Jan 25 2007, 10:23 PM EST
"Because of the intuitive nature of hounds, the Italian Greagles are hunters. Dominate traits have been exmplified from both the breeds and the result is a superior performance in relation to sight and scent recognition. Italian Greagles are full of energy and their muscular build make them unsurpassed in the field."

they are "unsurpassed in the field" -- what sort of game are we talking about?
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RE: Question
Mar 20 2007, 4:56 PM EDT
Both Beagles and Greyhounds are used for sport in Hare (rabbit) huntting 0  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    

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RE: Question
Mar 20 2007, 5:33 PM EDT
"Both Beagles and Greyhounds are used for sport in Hare (rabbit) huntting"
But Italian Greyhounds aren't Greyhounds -- they are a toy breed that was bred specifically to be a pet, and is as far removed from a Greyhound as a Pug is from a Mastiff!

When you say "unsurpassed in the field," it seems like there should be proof that THIS particular breed (or mix in this case) has been proven as hunters. Otherwise, these are empty words. Given the very recent history of this cross, I seriously doubt there has been any time to prove them.

This is yet another case of false advertising by someone who breeds mixed breeds to sell.
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RE: Question
Mar 20 2007, 8:04 PM EDT
""the Italian Greagles are hunters. Dominate traits have been exmplified from both the breeds and the result is a superior performance in relation to sight and scent recognition. Italian Greagles are full of energy and their muscular build make them unsurpassed in the field."

they are "unsurpassed in the field" -- what sort of game are we talking about?"
"Dominate" traits? Oh, you mean dominant, don't you?
I don't think you know what "exemplified" means, but a total out-cross doesn't result in superior anything, it results in a dilution of traits which have been exaggerated over many generations of previous line breeding. How do you cross an endurance hound with a sprinter and expect to get unsurpassed ANYTHING?
Yes, I suspect a young Beagle x IG mutt would be full of energy, as most young dogs are, but it may very inherit the undesireable traits of howling, digging, escaping, and being difficult to housetrain, as well.
Again, reference the breed specific rescue sites to see why IGs and beagles are usually released into rescue organizations.
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conexxions3
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RE: Question
Mar 26 2007, 7:03 PM EDT
""Dominate" traits? Oh, you mean dominant, don't you?
I don't think you know what "exemplified" means, but a total out-cross doesn't result in superior anything, it results in a dilution of traits which have been exaggerated over many generations of previous line breeding. How do you cross an endurance hound with a sprinter and expect to get unsurpassed ANYTHING?
Yes, I suspect a young Beagle x IG mutt would be full of energy, as most young dogs are, but it may very inherit the undesireable traits of howling, digging, escaping, and being difficult to housetrain, as well.
Again, reference the breed specific rescue sites to see why IGs and beagles are usually released into rescue organizations."
Good discussion. Its hard to say what these guys will turn out like. Ill find out - with 6 of them I should see pretty soon. Ill work hard to house train them and see if the Iggy problem surfaces. We've had a heck of a time with 2 of the 3 Iggys we have with that. But, never know. I do suspect they may have some enhanced traits for Sight and Smell. I think as some of the Greagles already posted and mine grow we can report on how they do. Even if they are never registered, but become either a fantastic house/family dog or a hunter it may be worth breeding them.

Jim
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RE: Question
Mar 27 2007, 8:01 PM EDT
wow, such negativity! we have a four year old "italian greagle", who does have superior performance in relation to sight and scent recognition. we don't use him for hunting purposes though. he is a sweetheart, i think that the mixing of these two breeds is an excellent idea. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

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RE: Question
Mar 28 2007, 12:33 AM EDT
"wow, such negativity! we have a four year old "italian greagle", who does have superior performance in relation to sight and scent recognition. we don't use him for hunting purposes though. he is a sweetheart, i think that the mixing of these two breeds is an excellent idea."
Mixed breeds are mixed breeds, no matter what the rationalization. ALL puppies are cute. If you don't want a purebred, the very least you can do is go adopt a dog from a shelter and not encourage ignorant people to make more mixed-breed puppies for frivolous reasons. It doesn't take a whole lot of brains to throw two different breeds together and call them a "designer breed" instead of a mutt.

I can guarantee that "Italian Greagles" are just as liable to be killed in shelters as any other mixed breed for the simple reasons that there are too many dogs and not enough homes.

You want negativity? Go volunteer in an animal shelter for a month or two and see all the stupid reasons people give for getting rid of their pets, and how many pets go out of there in plastic bags because nobody wants them. Please take the time to educate yourself before saying that intentionally mixing two breeds just for the heck of it is a good idea.
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RE: Question
Mar 28 2007, 10:56 PM EDT
"Mixed breeds are mixed breeds, no matter what the rationalization. ALL puppies are cute. If you don't want a purebred, the very least you can do is go adopt a dog from a shelter and not encourage ignorant people to make more mixed-breed puppies for frivolous reasons. It doesn't take a whole lot of brains to throw two different breeds together and call them a "designer breed" instead of a mutt.

I can guarantee that "Italian Greagles" are just as liable to be killed in shelters as any other mixed breed for the simple reasons that there are too many dogs and not enough homes.

You want negativity? Go volunteer in an animal shelter for a month or two and see all the stupid reasons people give for getting rid of their pets, and how many pets go out of there in plastic bags because nobody wants them. Please take the time to educate yourself before saying that intentionally mixing two breeds just for the heck of it is a good idea."
i don't understand your "ALL puppies are cute" comment. what is your point? i happen to be of the belief that ALL animals are cute, regardless of their age.

what is the difference between wanting a purebread or wanting a mutt? if one wants a purebread, it is okay to go to a breeder, but if one wants a mutt, they have to go to a shelter? all of my animals, except for the italian greagle, are shelter/rescue animals. we happened to fall in love with our greagle while visiting a pet shop, and couldn't resist bringing him home. we certainly weren't looking for a "designer breed", mutt, or purebread dog.

i am fully aware of all the stupid reasons people give for getting rid of pets, and i know the horror of a shelter. what i don't understand is how that makes my dog any less deserving of love and a good home. perhaps you should educate yourself before preaching at someone who probably knows more about animals than you do.




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RE: 4 year old greagle
Mar 29 2007, 12:59 PM EDT
"wow, such negativity! we have a four year old "italian greagle", who does have superior performance in relation to sight and scent recognition. we don't use him for hunting purposes though. he is a sweetheart, i think that the mixing of these two breeds is an excellent idea."
Do you have any pictures you can post?
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RE: 4 year old greagle
Mar 29 2007, 7:21 PM EDT
"Do you have any pictures you can post?"
i just posted a picture. :)
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Anonymous
RE: Question
Nov 19 2007, 12:09 PM EST
I can understand your stance here, but to blame people for falling in love with a "designer" or whatever they're calling it nowadays is just wrong. We all know of the problems in shelters and I don't think there's a single one of us on these sights that think that it's ok what goes on. Keep your idiotic comments to yourself. If a person loves an animal, it's not a deeper love because he/she got the animal at a shelter. It's a crying shame what happens, we all know. quit preaching. My Greagle was a stroke of luck that we found her and she's the best dog we've ever owned... is it right that if she didn't get purchased she would have been euthanized? Who is more deserving of love? Neither. it's a war we'll never win as long as there are people who don't properly care for their animals. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
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