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New Subject > Similarity to Australian Workng Kelpies?
Feb 13 2007, 2:09 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 13 2007, 2:09 AM EST
Similarity to Australian Workng Kelpies?

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>>Anonymous Yesterday, 12:12 PM EST

Greetings,I came across this website and I have never heard of this breed of dog before
I wanted to see more pictures,so looked at different sites.
They very much remind me of Australian working Kelpies
http://www.hnrworkingkelpies.com/Coat_Colors.html
Alot of coat variations,color, and alot of the same body structures.
The same look.I am curious if they have been used in the genetic makeup
in the creating of this breed.
They look so very similiar.<<
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1. RE: New Subject > Similarity to Australian Workng Kelpies?
Feb 7 2008, 8:38 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2008, 8:38 AM EST
The American Indian Dogs in Europe do have more of a natural wolf look as I saw on this website : http://indiandog.eigenstart.nl Are they related to the ones in the US? Do you find this valuable?    

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3. RE: New Subject > Similarity to Australian Workng Kelpies?
Feb 9 2008, 9:21 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2008, 9:21 PM EST
Yes, they are from Kim LaFlamme's dogs. So they are cross bred dogs! If you want to achieve that look --- breed a Husky to a Kelpie and there ya go!!!!!!!!!! Do you find this valuable?    

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4. RE: New Subject > Similarity to Australian Workng Kelpies?
Mar 28 2009, 1:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 28 2009, 1:06 PM EDT

Yes, they are from Song Dog Kennels.
They just have more Husky in them,
then the ones in the US.
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meyati
meyati
5. RE: New Subject > Similarity to Australian Workng Kelpies?
Mar 29 2009, 12:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 29 2009, 12:25 PM EDT
When a person prints or even says that a certain person or association are scam artists-etc. That is libel & slander-I think that most of us can decide the character of name caller that is ruining the reputation of another person without signing in and posting anonmyously. A short time ago-I told people that they have legal control of only their own association and it's members, so stop the name calling. Later other moderators deleted the two threads that were being nasty-libelious and slanderous. Maximusandz gave you a specific warning. I deleted the specific post that was slanderous & left the thread, because a person is trying to have an honest conversation.
You cannot name a person or association and call them scam artists, etc. You cannot even infer that-unless you can give a link that shows this person has warrants out on them for these types of crimes-anything else is libel & slander & you might end up being investigated & being sued for libel & slander. Anybody that thinks that he/she can post whatever you want without consequences are wrong-the moderators are watching the discussions.
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6. RE: New Subject > Similarity to Australian Workng Kelpies?
Mar 29 2009, 12:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 29 2009, 12:32 PM EDT
By the way-the northern sled dogs are Native American dogs-they pulled sleds for Native Americans before the Spanish, Vikings, English, Dutch & any other group or nation "Discovered" the Americas. Considering that Native Americans traded things from Alaska to Chile & from the Pacific to the Atlantic, the pre-European dogs probably were mixed with everything too. Do you find this valuable?    
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7. RE: New Subject > Similarity to Australian Workng Kelpies?
Mar 30 2009, 1:17 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 30 2009, 1:17 AM EDT
"By the way-the northern sled dogs are Native American dogs-they pulled sleds for Native Americans before the Spanish, Vikings, English, Dutch & any other group or nation "Discovered" the Americas. Considering that Native Americans traded things from Alaska to Chile & from the Pacific to the Atlantic, the pre-European dogs probably were mixed with everything too. "
And I'm betting that none of those dogs are still around today. I AM Native American and my ancestors dogs were not full-blood anything - and they sure weren't and aren't a "breed" of dog so, to call them "Native American, or Indian Dog" breed is ridiculous. I'm not trying to sound snarky, but just sick and tired of some people making money off my culture, religion and ancestory.
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meyati
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8. RE: New Subject > Similarity to Australian Workng Kelpies?
Mar 30 2009, 4:10 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 30 2009, 4:10 AM EDT
There are several groups-one in Europe that call their associations a form of Native American dogs. They call each other names & talk about the purity, etc. I was going to ask you if you are Din'e-because of your user name. While I'm not Native American-I'm related to Navajo-the Cheyenne in Oklahoma-Blackfoot-Aleuts-Acomas & Zuni. These groups have been fussing about the look & purity-but geography & life style probably dictated what pre-European dogs looked like in different areas-I've pointed out that Europeans brought dogs with them and the dogs bred. One group gets upset & accuses the other group of cheating by using wolves whatever. I point out that they are trying to re-create something that hasn't existed for a while and the peoples of the Americas did extensive trading. One grandfather was Irish & the other one was german-one spoke Cheyenne & the other Sioux-both had scalp shirts and some of the scalps belonged to whites. I'm just trying to get them to play nice & that they are trying to re-create something-
Excuse me for saying this, but they're probablely some of the million or so red-heads or blondies that had a Cherokee princess for an ancestor-Myself-I'm a hound person & on the irish side some of my ancestors were on the Spanish Armada-so I'm probablely a mixture of Viking-African & Spanish. Believe me-I get where you're coming from.
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