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60. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 9 2008, 8:40 PM EDT
I am sorry to hear about Max - he is so so young. The amount of cancer in Goldens are unbelievable. If I didn't love their personalities so much I would think about getting a different breed. I felt the same way about Bailey. For the 18 hours before we put her down I wanted to stop time. I hated to see the clock move. I debated so much about whether or not we were doing the right thing. Even 10 days later all I do is think about her. I would recommend taking pictures of him, laying with him and talk to him.
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61. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 9 2008, 9:36 PM EDT
How do the docs know it's a meningioma? Did they do a myelogram? (putting xray dye into the spinal canal) Our 1st Golden, Fred (Yes, we had Fred and Ethel) was diagnosed at age 6 1/2 with a spinal cord tumor while under sedation for a myelogram. We decided to let him go without waking him up. He had progressive weakness, then paralysis of his rear extremities. My then 12 yr. old twin boys considered Fred their very best friend. We were all devestated, as I am sure you are. It's just not fair, especially at such a young age. My thoughts are with you, your family , and with Max. God Bless.
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62. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 19 2008, 8:55 PM EDT
Wanted to see how everyone is doing? It will be three weeks tomorrow that my Bailey passed away and I still miss her so much. I still think of things in my mind about her ie no I can't go I need to go feed Bailey. Then I stop myself and all those memories come back. The memories of her last day and how I wish I spent more time with her over our 12 years. My family keeps reminding me of all the wonderful times we had with her and they keep telling me who wonderful of a Mom I was. But if i was so wonderful why couldn't I fix her and take care of her. She relied on me and I think I let her down. Is this standard? Do you guys go thru that pain? I still sleep with her blanket so I can smell her scent. We are starting to "research" for a new puppy but we aren't ready yet. I want my time to respect our four-legged princess. With the large percentage of cancer in Golden Retreivers- do any of you have suggestions for reducing the risk? Is it in breeding? Food? Environment? Max- how have you been?
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63. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 20 2008, 10:53 AM EDT
"Wanted to see how everyone is doing? It will be three weeks tomorrow that my Bailey passed away and I still miss her so much. I still think of things in my mind about her ie no I can't go I need to go feed Bailey. Then I stop myself and all those memories come back. The memories of her last day and how I wish I spent more time with her over our 12 years. My family keeps reminding me of all the wonderful times we had with her and they keep telling me who wonderful of a Mom I was. But if i was so wonderful why couldn't I fix her and take care of her. She relied on me and I think I let her down. Is this standard? Do you guys go thru that pain? I still sleep with her blanket so I can smell her scent. We are starting to "research" for a new puppy but we aren't ready yet. I want my time to respect our four-legged princess. With the large percentage of cancer in Golden Retreivers- do any of you have suggestions for reducing the risk? Is it in breeding? Food? Environment? Max- how have you been? "Hi There Dear Heart, I just read your post and it broke my heart. I'm experiencing the same feelings as you over the loss of my golden Bear. I too feel as though I let him down. I know it sounds crazy because we both know that ultimately death is inevitable and we can't stop the hands of time - but still we sit and question ourselves. I know that I carry a sense of guilt because although I know that euthanizing him was the humane thing to do I question whether or not his soul forgives me for it., I was the only one he fully trusted. The way he looked at me during his very last moments will be with me forever, his look of being terrified over what was happening to him, all I could do was lay there with him and tell him he's such a good good boy and how much I love him, and cried my eyes out. I too wish I had spent more time with him - although I was home during the day with him - I think about how I never took him on family vacations or to the beach etc etc.... and I think to myself I wish he could have enjoyed those things. One of his favorite things was to go for a ride in the car - we didn't even have to even be going anywhere special - I wish I had done more with him. I wish I could make these terrible feelings go away and I question friends and family only to hear that "I did the right thing" , but somehow it just doesn't suffice. I'm sure we aren't the only ones who carry around these feelings- these feelings are probably natural. Do you find this valuable? |
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64. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 20 2008, 11:07 AM EDT
"Hi There Dear Heart, I just read your post and it broke my heart. I'm experiencing the same feelings as you over the loss of my golden Bear. I too feel as though I let him down. I know it sounds crazy because we both know that ultimately death is inevitable and we can't stop the hands of time - but still we sit and question ourselves. I know that I carry a sense of guilt because although I know that euthanizing him was the humane thing to do I question whether or not his soul forgives me for it., I was the only one he fully trusted. The way he looked at me during his very last moments will be with me forever, his look of being terrified over what was happening to him, all I could do was lay there with him and tell him he's such a good good boy and how much I love him, and cried my eyes out. I too wish I had spent more time with him - although I was home during the day with him - I think about how I never took him on family vacations or to the beach etc etc.... and I think to myself I wish he could have enjoyed those things. One of his favorite things was to go for a ride in the car - we didn't even have to even be going anywhere special - I wish I had done more with him.I forgot to answer the second half of your post.... Although I'm no expert I can say - DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Find a reputable serious hobby breeder who cares deeply about the breed and they aren't breeding strictly for money purposes. Go to the breeder and look at their environment, look at the dam and the sire, interact with them. Genetics plays a huge role in the health of your new puppy however it isn't a 100% guarantee - but it does help to keep the chances lower of your new dog having health issues. Read about the health issues and concerns with the breed GOOGLE it, and then read it again. I know there is potential for cancer, eye problems, hip displaysia, elbow issues - you would want to see proof that your breeder has all these health clearances - as for the cancer I'm not sure about how to check the breed line for this - I suppose that if the breeder has all their health clearances that the chances of cancer is lower. The life expectancy for the golden is 10-12 yrs , it used to be 15 yrs. (although I have know some to live as long as 16). Food is important and I have been researching this topic myself. Anyone with more info that can add to this would be very helpful, I'm curious to know all the facts. Do you find this valuable? |
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65. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 20 2008, 8:38 PM EDT
Thank you very much for the response. While I hate that anyone has to go thru such pain I do feel comfort that I am not alone in my feelings. I find it interesting that my family and friends are now starting to say "its ok you need to stop focusing on it." Do they know how much I loved my dog. She was one of my children and I get somewhat offended that they feel that I shouldn't mourn anymore. I loved her and I didn't realize that 3 weeks is a limit for missing her.... I agree about the food and I am feel strongly that for the next puppy I will not use as many chemicals on her/him. I will try to use more organic products like flea and tick lotion.... I have contacted some area puppy referral breeds that were listed by the national golden retriever association. I have contacted them and have asked some questions. I do like how some make you apply for the puppy and they interview you (I think this implies that they care about where their dogs will go) but I am still so scared.... Does anyone have any other suggestions on reducing the odds of cancer in this incredible breed.
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66. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 20 2008, 8:45 PM EDT
Please note that I am thinking about you. I know how you feel. I have also been thru alot and honestly my Bailey was my unconditional support. We also have an incredible connection. It sounds like your Bear and my Bailey were very similiar. And I think a while back you mentioned that your Bear was a dark golden. Bailey was also a beautiful dark golden with the a huge amount of energy and eyes of an angel. Maybe our wonderful kids have met at Rainbow Bridge and are playing with tennis balls.
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67. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 20 2008, 11:47 PM EDT
for a moment your comment brought a big smile to my face. Yes, of course , yes indeed they have met at rainbow bridge and they are frolicking and playing and waiting for the day we can visit with them again. Yes, my Bear was a dark golden with beautiful almond shaped eyes, so sweet and gentle. God I miss him. Do you find this valuable? |
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68. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 21 2008, 6:49 AM EDT
This site is great support to know that others feel thesame as I do. It will be 3 weeks since I lost my girl. I still cry daily and miss her so very much. I pray that she is no longer afraid of storms, as I am not with her to comfort her.(or she probably thought she was comforting me!) I am in contact with a small breeder that had a litter on the same day Ethel died. I know it sounds corny, but somehow I wonder if it was a sign her soul may be partly with them. The breeder says I can have my pick of the males, but I don't know if it is too soon. I am NOT replacing my precious girl. I want to honor her by loving a new baby. Am I crazy?
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69. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 21 2008, 1:25 PM EDT
I don't think you are crazy. I wish I could be ready - - my son sure is. I keep thinking that I just won't love the new one the same. I am sure I will but I do think that implies that I am just not ready yet. I am also kinda picky. I really want a dark colored one just like Bailey but most of the breeders have said that their litters tend to be more lighter. And I do believe in fate and think that the birthday is a sign. I am looking forward to the day that I am in ready because even with small children --our house is still too quiet. She was my perfect companion.
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70. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 21 2008, 10:45 PM EDT
I understand your feelings of not wanting to replace your Bailey or Ethel. That would be impossible. We adopted Minnie and I have found that she is similar to both Jericho and Dakotah, but still her own personality. We love seeing the same personalities and habits exhibited in this new buddy. I think we have adopted a clown. She is so smart and playful and silly. It was the best thing for us. I am still sad at times, but I know that this little girl's purpose is to comfort us and make us happy every day, and she does. We haven't replaced, we have added more joy. Goldens are great.
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71. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 25 2008, 12:47 AM EDT
"WE HAD TO PUT OUR GOLDEN DOWN YESTERDAY 3/29/07 DUE TO CANCER OF THE SPLEEN. IT WENT SO FAST!! HE WAS SO HEALTHY A MONTH AGO AND THEN SUDDENLY WAS HIT WITH CANCER. HE WOULD HAVE BEEN 7 IN JULY. WE ARE SO VERY VERY DEVESTATED. HE WAS SUCH A LOVING AND WONDERFUL BOY. HE WAS TRULY OUR BEST FRIEND. HE SHOWED UNCONDITIONAL LOVE CLEAR TO THE END. PLEASE IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS INFORMATION ON GOLDEN WITH CANCER, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. "I Just got back from the vet with my almost 8-year old golden and am devastated----she has a large mass on her spleen and ulcerations on her liver---her liver is also enlarged. I'm going to see a specialist tomorrow but would love advice from anyone who has gone through this horrible situation before-----is it worth having her spleen removed and/or chemo??? I just don't want what days she has left to be full of pain and suffering if it only buys her a couple of months----please help me---I would love to hear any (hopefully!) good stories of recovery out there----I have been reading this website and getting even more depressed----I just want to help my friend and don't know what to do...........thanks..... Do you find this valuable? |
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72. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 25 2008, 3:54 PM EDT
"I Just got back from the vet with my almost 8-year old golden and am devastated----she has a large mass on her spleen and ulcerations on her liver---her liver is also enlarged. I'm going to see a specialist tomorrow but would love advice from anyone who has gone through this horrible situation before-----is it worth having her spleen removed and/or chemo??? I just don't want what days she has left to be full of pain and suffering if it only buys her a couple of months----please help me---I would love to hear any (hopefully!) good stories of recovery out there----I have been reading this website and getting even more depressed----I just want to help my friend and don't know what to do...........thanks....."I'm so sorry about your golden. I'm not a vet by any means but I post on this board because I have lost my golden recently to a splenic mass, so i'm familiar with the devastation your feeling right now. The choice of having the spleen removed and sent to pathology is a personal choice that only you can make. In my case I chose NOT to - I'm not saying this was the correct choice, but it was the choice I made in the end. I made the decision based on my dogs age of 12 1/2 yrs and I wanted to spare him the pain and the grief of going through this procedure. I thought it best to let him pass at home peacefully rather then subjecting him to the clinical setting (note: he did suffer from severe separation anxiety). You need to discuss all your options with your vet, review the labs (liver enzymes), research and research again. Your golden girl is only 8 yrs old, should still have a few years of quality life left to live.... how is she otherwise? is she active? does she have arthritis? is her quality of life good right now? if all this is a check check - I think I would consider the surgery. I hope I have been helpful to you - my heart feels the pain your going through. Please keep us updated. Do you find this valuable? |
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73. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 29 2008, 8:04 AM EDT
"I Just got back from the vet with my almost 8-year old golden and am devastated----she has a large mass on her spleen and ulcerations on her liver---her liver is also enlarged. I'm going to see a specialist tomorrow but would love advice from anyone who has gone through this horrible situation before-----is it worth having her spleen removed and/or chemo??? I just don't want what days she has left to be full of pain and suffering if it only buys her a couple of months----please help me---I would love to hear any (hopefully!) good stories of recovery out there----I have been reading this website and getting even more depressed----I just want to help my friend and don't know what to do...........thanks....."I have a 8 year old yellow lab that was diagnosed with a ruptured spleen and he had emergency surgery last night. We had to do it because he was actively bleeding into his abdominal cavity. After surgery the vet told us she evacuated 3 liters of blood out of his abdomen. She also said there was a tumor present on the spleen but could not see any other visible tumors on the other organs. I am completely devastated. My dog has never been sick. He is a vivacious creature. He may be 8, but he has the spirit of a puppy. I called the vet this morning and they said he is improving minute by minute. My husband and I had the surgery done because there is a chance that it may be a benign tumor. If the tumor is malignant we decided against chemotherapy. I feel your pain. I have not stopped crying since this occured. I am having a hard time writing this because I am blinded by my tears. I wish you all the luck and my prayers go out to you. I will keep you posted. We have to wait a week for the pathology results. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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74. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 29 2008, 1:30 PM EDT
"I have a 8 year old yellow lab that was diagnosed with a ruptured spleen and he had emergency surgery last night. We had to do it because he was actively bleeding into his abdominal cavity. After surgery the vet told us she evacuated 3 liters of blood out of his abdomen. She also said there was a tumor present on the spleen but could not see any other visible tumors on the other organs. I am completely devastated. My dog has never been sick. He is a vivacious creature. He may be 8, but he has the spirit of a puppy. I called the vet this morning and they said he is improving minute by minute. My husband and I had the surgery done because there is a chance that it may be a benign tumor. If the tumor is malignant we decided against chemotherapy. I feel your pain. I have not stopped crying since this occured. I am having a hard time writing this because I am blinded by my tears. I wish you all the luck and my prayers go out to you. I will keep you posted. We have to wait a week for the pathology results."Hi There, I just read your post. I went through the exact same senario back in Jan. with my 12 1/2 yr old Golden. I think you made the right choice going through with the surgery. I know all to well how hard that decision had to be. In my case I chose not to have the surgery and I'm kicking myself now. I feel so horribly guilty that I didn't go through with the surgery - this will be with me forever. I can't help but wonder if this could have saved his life. My reasons for not going through with it are many, but I mostly thought of his age and how he suffered from separation anxiety and I didn't want to put him through all the stress. I pray that your sweety survives this and that it's not cancerous. You hang in there. I'm very curious to know what happens and my thoughts and prayers are with you. I don't understand why so many dogs are being diagnosed with a ruptured spleen, the same senario over and over again - it's simply mind boggling ?? 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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75. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 29 2008, 2:13 PM EDT
We had to say goodbye to our Golden, Sugar, just two days ago. Completely unexpectedly like many of you. She had been on the decline but was still enjoying life until the end. She had just finished her supper and it was "biscuit time" but instead of jumping for joy she lay collapsed on the floor. We rushed her to the clinic and the sonogram confirmed a ruptured spleen and probable hemangiosarcoma. She was the sweetest dog you could ever meet, and only asked for lots of love which she returned ten-fold. She was a rescue and either 10 or 11 years old this year. The recovery would have been too painful for her to go through, with a "poor" prognosis from the veterinarian, and she might not have even made it through surgery. We are devastated to have lost her so quickly and did the best we could for her until her last day. She will never be forgotten.My heart goes out to everyone else going through this devastating disease, whatever the outcome for your pet. Give them as much love as you can for as long as you can! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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76. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 29 2008, 5:09 PM EDT
It is hard to comprehend why and how this disease is so common among our loves. I am almost scared to love again. But my heart still doesn't seem complete. Its been one month and I still cry regularly for my baby Bailey. How can we prevent or at least reduce the changes of this horrilbe disease on our next dog?
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77. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 29 2008, 7:43 PM EDT
We just came back from visiting Maui and he looked much better than yesterday. He did have to recieve a unit of blood. He is still weak but he was walking outside with us a little bit. He tried to walk towards our car. I think he wants to go home. The one vet that originally saw Maui thought he was not going to make it through surgery. She was pleasantly surprised. My hopes are high but we are not out of the woods yet. Thanks for your response. It meant alot to me and my husband. It blows my mind that so many dogs have gone through this. I will keep you posted. Thanks again.
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78. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 29 2008, 7:50 PM EDT
"We just came back from visiting Maui and he looked much better than yesterday. He did have to recieve a unit of blood. He is still weak but he was walking outside with us a little bit. He tried to walk towards our car. I think he wants to go home. The one vet that originally saw Maui thought he was not going to make it through surgery. She was pleasantly surprised. My hopes are high but we are not out of the woods yet. Thanks for your response. It meant alot to me and my husband. It blows my mind that so many dogs have gone through this. I will keep you posted. Thanks again."Hey there - thanks for the update. I think she will pull through - she made it through surgery and that is a big deal!! The vet obviously didn't see anything else in there or they would have called you - so this is also a good thing. What a sweet girl, I saw her picture. Please keep us updated. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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79. RE: CANCER IN GOLDENS
Mar 29 2008, 8:19 PM EDT
"We had to say goodbye to our Golden, Sugar, just two days ago. Completely unexpectedly like many of you. She had been on the decline but was still enjoying life until the end. She had just finished her supper and it was "biscuit time" but instead of jumping for joy she lay collapsed on the floor. We rushed her to the clinic and the sonogram confirmed a ruptured spleen and probable hemangiosarcoma. She was the sweetest dog you could ever meet, and only asked for lots of love which she returned ten-fold. She was a rescue and either 10 or 11 years old this year. The recovery would have been too painful for her to go through, with a "poor" prognosis from the veterinarian, and she might not have even made it through surgery. We are devastated to have lost her so quickly and did the best we could for her until her last day. She will never be forgotten.I feel the key is your last sentence. "Give them as much love as you can for as long as you can!" Every situation is different..every dog is different. There are no right or wrong answers. We had 6 weeks with our Ethel after given the grave news of hemangiosarcoma and osteosarcoma. We chose to just love her as much as we could until the dreaded day came that for HER we let her go peacefully. It's been 4 weeks, and I miss her deeply..my heart aches. Last weekend I was by myself, and the depression was overwelming. On Monday, I adopted an 8 week old baby Golden girl, Lucy. On my way to the breeder, I saw a rainbow ahead. I felt it was Ethel saying it was OK, that she knew I would always remember her and love her. I still cry daily fo the loss of my beloved Ethel, but am also enjoying my new love..Lucille Ethel's Grace. God bless to all. Do you find this valuable? |